[U-Boot-Users] Re: Re: really really tiny code

Sorry about the off-topic email. I sincerely felt that the people on this mailing list are the only ones who can help me.
About the problem itself: Yes, I am a little comfortable with the u-boot source code now, and I planned on using most of the code in cpu/mpc8260/start.S for making this 'micro monitor'
I definitely plan to make it available under the GPL, as I feel it will be a really good test tool for people bringing up their new hardware for the first time. They can use the processor to test crucial parts of the system, and use LEDs to report status. From my (limited) experience in board bring-up, everything right from the power supply to bad buffers, JTAG connections to bus noise are suspect when the board dosen't work. Atleast this tiny code will help clear up doubts from the processor's point of view. Developers will have one definite ally on the board who keeps sending status reports no matter what else is failing.
The only help I need is with gcc, or ppc_82xx-gcc, to be precise. I have no idea how to give it a single .S or .asm file and tell it to create a .bin. Makefiles? I only know how to use readymade ones, not to how to create one.
You said I will also need a .lds, and I don't know how to tell gcc to use that either.
Can anyone please send the complete process of compiling such a source (only 1 or two source files) along with the .lds and creating a .bin?
Waiting, Nishant
PS. Sorry again if its still off-topic. But I feel it can be a good addition to u-boot as a separate tool. This will also be independent of the board, and most people will simply have to change the addresses of the LEDs to get it working for their board.
-----Original Message----- From: wd@denx.de [mailto:wd@denx.de] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 3:05 PM To: Nishant Galange Cc: u-boot-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [U-Boot-Users] really really tiny code
In message 1106684792.3804b95cnishant.subs@myrealbox.com you wrote:
I want to write a really tiny program - just init core, MMU and stop. Preferably, (if possible) I would like to start out with a blank file, type in the code, and give the compile command at the good old command prom= pt.
Is it possible? If yes, can anyone please tell me the command?
Yes, it is poossible. You will need more than one command, at least "vi" and "ppc_82xx-gcc".
Would any other files (.lds, etc) be necessary? What else will be required?
Yes, you will most probably need a linker script.
One of the most important requirements is an in-depth understanding of your hardware environment and how to write software for it.
I need a micro development environment like this from where I can do all my work out of the cosy little (really limited, I know) DPRAM, and try out some experiments with the processor's registers and config. I might even be adventurous and try initializing the ports and glowing some LEDs :-)
What do I do? How do I proceed? Please help.
U-Boot includes all the init stuff you will probably re-0invent, so feel free to copy and re-use this code (and make your program available under GPL), but please understand that you are on your own with such a project.
Sorry, but this is off topic here.
Best regards,
Wolfgang Denk

In message 1106744392.30bb8dbcnishant.subs@myrealbox.com you wrote:
I definitely plan to make it available under the GPL, as I feel it will be a really good test tool for people bringing up their new hardware for the first time. They can use the processor to test crucial parts of
Using U-Boot is IMHO a much better test tool. It alows to do exactly the same, step by step, and in the process you get a real boot loader ported, too.
Atleast this tiny code will help clear up doubts from the processor's point of view. Developers will have one definite ally on the board who keeps sending status reports no matter what else is failing.
Haw many boards have you ported U-Boot to, and what was the main problem with U-Boot in this process? In other words, which problems did you encounter when portting U-Boot which yoiu think you can overcome in your new code?
I have no idea how to give it a single .S or .asm file and tell it to creat e a .bin.
ppc_82xx-gcc file.S ppc_82xx-ld -Bstatic -T your_linker_script file.o
Makefiles? I only know how to use readymade ones, not to how to create one.
You will have to learn this, then. Sorry, but this is not the forum to teach you software development issues.
You said I will also need a .lds, and I don't know how to tell gcc to use that either.
GCC doesn;t use it, itls the linker (ld) which does.
Can anyone please send the complete process of compiling such a source (only 1 or two source files) along with the .lds and creating a .bin?
Type "make all" in the U-Boot directory and what what it's doing.
PS. Sorry again if its still off-topic. But I feel it can be a good addition to u-boot as a separate tool. This will also be independent of the board,
I disagree. You're just re-inventing the wheel. But please feel free to go on.
Best regards,
Wolfgang Denk

Nishant Galange wrote:
The only help I need is with gcc, or ppc_82xx-gcc, to be precise. I have no idea how to give it a single .S or .asm file and tell it to create a .bin. Makefiles? I only know how to use readymade ones, not to how to create one.
You will have to do some studying then to learn these basic things. They are well documented (hint: read the gcc and binutils documentation)
http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/ http://sources.redhat.com/binutils/docs-2.15/ http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/Assembly-HOWTO/index.html http://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/make.html
Most important, learn to use google and it will answer all your questions. :)
But please don't continue asking here, you will only anger the list managers...
-R
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Nishant Galange
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Ralph Siemsen
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Wolfgang Denk