[U-Boot-Users] new to U-Boot, how do I get started for Atmel at91sam9261ek

Hi Group,
I have a at91sam9261ek evaluation Kit from Atmel and I want to bring up the UBoot on that. When I got the board, I also got UBoot binary which can be flashed and verified. However, I did not get the source code. The code has to be purchased seperately, which I do not want to do. I want to take up the UBoot porting on this board as a task.
Any quick pointer to start with? Do we have some other similar board already supported by UBoot code that I can "clone" to make things faster?
Best regards, Ashish Vyas Larsen & Toubro Infotech Ltd. www.Lntinfotech.com
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Vyas Ashish wrote:
Hi Group,
I have a at91sam9261ek evaluation Kit from Atmel and I want to bring up the UBoot on that. When I got the board, I also got UBoot binary which can be flashed and verified. However, I did not get the source code. The code has to be purchased seperately, which I do not want to do. I want to take up the UBoot porting on this board as a task.
If you received a u-boot binary for that board, you have the right to ask for a copy of the source that generated that u-boot binary and the company that distributed that u-boot binary (apparently Atmel) has the legal obligation to provide that at a reasonable cost to cover their distribution costs. That is all part of the GNU General Public License. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gpl
There are Atmel employees on this list, perhaps they can speak to the issue more directly.
Any quick pointer to start with? Do we have some other similar board already supported by UBoot code that I can "clone" to make things faster?
Best regards, Ashish Vyas
Best regards, gvb

Jerry Van Baren wrote:
Vyas Ashish wrote:
Hi Group,
I have a at91sam9261ek evaluation Kit from Atmel and I want to bring up the UBoot on that. When I got the board, I also got UBoot binary which can be flashed and verified. However, I did not get the source code. The code has to be purchased seperately, which I do not want to do. I want to take up the UBoot porting on this board as a task.
If you received a u-boot binary for that board, you have the right to ask for a copy of the source that generated that u-boot binary and the company that distributed that u-boot binary (apparently Atmel) has the legal obligation to provide that at a reasonable cost to cover their distribution costs. That is all part of the GNU General Public License. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gpl
There are Atmel employees on this list, perhaps they can speak to the issue more directly.
Any quick pointer to start with? Do we have some other similar board already supported by UBoot code that I can "clone" to make things faster?
Best regards, Ashish Vyas
Best regards, gvb
I received the following email from Ulf - it appears he is struggling with his phone/email and sent it directly to me only, not to the list. The one that really needed it was Vyas. As expected, Vyas just needed to know where to look to get the source.
Atmel does not sell GPL source.
Check out www.Iinux4sam.org for U-boot source.
A later version will be downloaded when You run buildroot, bul that is not shipped with any systems.
Has there not been SAM9261 patches sent in to the git lately?
(Symbian mail client sucks as well)
Best Regards Ulf Samuelsson
HTH, gvb

Vyas Ashish wrote:
Hi Group,
I have a at91sam9261ek evaluation Kit from Atmel and I want to bring up the UBoot on that. When I got the board, I also got UBoot binary which can be flashed and verified. However, I did not get the source code. The code has to be purchased seperately, which I do not want to do. I want to take up the UBoot porting on this board as a task.
Jerry Van Baren wrote:
If you received a u-boot binary for that board, you have the right to ask for a copy of the source that generated that u-boot binary and the company that distributed that u-boot binary (apparently Atmel) has the legal obligation to provide that at a reasonable cost to cover their distribution costs. That is all part of the GNU General Public License. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gpl
There are Atmel employees on this list, perhaps they can speak to the issue more directly.
Any quick pointer to start with? Do we have some other similar board already supported by UBoot code that I can "clone" to make things faster?
Jerry Van Baren wrote:
I received the following email from Ulf - it appears he is struggling with his phone/email and sent it directly to me only, not to the list. The one that really needed it was Vyas. As expected, Vyas just needed to know where to look to get the source.
Ulf Samuelsson via Jerry Van Baren wrote:
Atmel does not sell GPL source.
Check out www.Iinux4sam.org for U-boot source.
There is a typo in the above URI. It should be:
A later version will be downloaded when You run buildroot, bul that is not shipped with any systems.
Has there not been SAM9261 patches sent in to the git lately?
AT91SAM9261-EK should be available by now via git to the AT91 U-Boot git repository:
http://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot/u-boot-at91.git;a=summary
I'm sure you will be much happier with the improvements of the git at91 code than linux4sam.org whose most current code is still _appears_ to be based on U-Boot 1.2.0. (There is a reference to 1.3.0, saying the port is incomplete.)
Sincerely,
Ken Fuchs

In message 4852D065.9070800@ge.com you wrote:
I received the following email from Ulf - it appears he is struggling with his phone/email and sent it directly to me only, not to the list. The one that really needed it was Vyas. As expected, Vyas just needed to know where to look to get the source.
Know where to look to get the source?
That's illegal.
The GPL explicitely states:
b) Accompany it with a written offer, valid for at least three years, to give any third party, for a charge no more than your cost of physically performing source distribution, a complete machine-readable copy of the corresponding source code, to be distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above on a medium customarily used for software interchange; or,
If such a written offer is included, you don't "need to know where to look to get the source", because it is clearly documented.
Vyas, can you please comment if such a written offer was included with the package you received?
Best regards,
Wolfgang Denk

Vyan is misinformed. Atmel do not sell GPL'ed stuff.
Regards, Andrejs Cainikovs.
Wolfgang Denk wrote:
In message 4852D065.9070800@ge.com you wrote:
I received the following email from Ulf - it appears he is struggling with his phone/email and sent it directly to me only, not to the list. The one that really needed it was Vyas. As expected, Vyas just needed to know where to look to get the source.
Know where to look to get the source?
That's illegal.
The GPL explicitely states:
b) Accompany it with a written offer, valid for at least three years, to give any third party, for a charge no more than your cost of physically performing source distribution, a complete machine-readable copy of the corresponding source code, to be distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above on a medium customarily used for software interchange; or,
If such a written offer is included, you don't "need to know where to look to get the source", because it is clearly documented.
Vyas, can you please comment if such a written offer was included with the package you received?
Best regards,
Wolfgang Denk

In message OFB129BF94.48311ED8-ON65257467.0030AB8A-65257467.00316D60@lntinfotech.com you wrote:
I have a at91sam9261ek evaluation Kit from Atmel and I want to bring up the UBoot on that. When I got the board, I also got UBoot binary which can be flashed and verified. However, I did not get the source code. The code has to be purchased seperately, which I do not want to do. I want to take
U-Boot is licensed under GPL, and whoever gave you the binary is also obligated by law to give you the complete source code for free.
Can you please send me any documents that prove that somebody did that, and who tat was? I will follow uo on this...
Best regards,
Wolfgang Denk

Wolfgang Denk wrote:
In message OFB129BF94.48311ED8-ON65257467.0030AB8A-65257467.00316D60@lntinfotech.com you wrote:
I have a at91sam9261ek evaluation Kit from Atmel and I want to bring up the UBoot on that. When I got the board, I also got UBoot binary which can be flashed and verified. However, I did not get the source code. The code has to be purchased seperately, which I do not want to do. I want to take
U-Boot is licensed under GPL, and whoever gave you the binary is also obligated by law to give you the complete source code for free.
Can you please send me any documents that prove that somebody did that, and who tat was? I will follow uo on this...
Atmel provides GPL source for the AT91 on www.linux4sam.org.
the build of U-boot for the AT91SAM9261EK is explained at http://www.linux4sam.org/twiki/bin/view/Linux4SAM/U-Boot
You will need: ftp://ftp.denx.de/pub/u-boot/u-boot-1.1.5.tar.bz2and applyftp://www.linux4sam.org/pub/uboot/u-boot-1.1.5_atmel_1.6/u-boot-1.1.5_atmel_1.6.diff
Best regards,
Wolfgang Denk
Best Regards Ulf Samuelsson ulf@atmel.com Atmel Nordic AB Mail: Box 2033, 174 02 Sundbyberg, Sweden Visit: Kavallerivägen 24, 174 58 Sundbyberg, Sweden Phone +46 (8) 441 54 22 Fax +46 (8) 441 54 29 GSM +46 (706) 22 44 57
Technical support when I am not available: AT90 AVR Applications Group: mailto:avr@atmel.com AT91 ARM Applications Group: mailto:at91support@atmel.com AVR32 Applications Group mailto:avr32@atmel.com http://www.avrfreaks.net/; http://avr32linux.org/ http://www.at91.com/ ; http://www.linux4sam.org/

Dear Ulf,
in message 00ab01c8cee1$3b1192b0$040514ac@atmel.com you wrote:
Atmel provides GPL source for the AT91 on www.linux4sam.org.
Does Atmel include with the product a written offer with clear information where the source code can be found?
Best regards,
Wolfgang Denk

Dear All,
Thanks for the responses and the information. I am getting the Uboot source and kernel patches from http://www.linux4sam.org/twiki/bin/view/Linux4SAM as of now and I will see if I am able to build and load the image on my own.
Thanks Ashish Vyas
"Ulf Samuelsson" ulf.samuelsson@atmel.com Sent by: u-boot-users-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net 06/15/2008 05:42 PM
To "Vyas Ashish" Vyas.Ashish@lntinfotech.com, "Wolfgang Denk" wd@denx.de cc u-boot-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject Re: [U-Boot-Users] new to U-Boot, how do I get started for Atmel at91sam9261ek
Wolfgang Denk wrote:
In message
OFB129BF94.48311ED8-ON65257467.0030AB8A-65257467.00316D60@lntinfotech.com
you wrote:
I have a at91sam9261ek evaluation Kit from Atmel and I want to bring up the UBoot on that. When I got the board, I also got UBoot binary which can be flashed and verified. However, I did not get the source code. The code has to be purchased seperately, which I do not want to do. I want to take
U-Boot is licensed under GPL, and whoever gave you the binary is also obligated by law to give you the complete source code for free.
Can you please send me any documents that prove that somebody did that, and who tat was? I will follow uo on this...
Atmel provides GPL source for the AT91 on www.linux4sam.org.
the build of U-boot for the AT91SAM9261EK is explained at http://www.linux4sam.org/twiki/bin/view/Linux4SAM/U-Boot
You will need: ftp://ftp.denx.de/pub/u-boot/u-boot-1.1.5.tar.bz2and applyftp://www.linux4sam.org/pub/uboot/u-boot-1.1.5_atmel_1.6/u-boot-1.1.5_atmel_1.6.diff
Best regards,
Wolfgang Denk
Best Regards Ulf Samuelsson ulf@atmel.com Atmel Nordic AB Mail: Box 2033, 174 02 Sundbyberg, Sweden Visit: Kavallerivägen 24, 174 58 Sundbyberg, Sweden Phone +46 (8) 441 54 22 Fax +46 (8) 441 54 29 GSM +46 (706) 22 44 57
Technical support when I am not available: AT90 AVR Applications Group: mailto:avr@atmel.com AT91 ARM Applications Group: mailto:at91support@atmel.com AVR32 Applications Group mailto:avr32@atmel.com http://www.avrfreaks.net/; http://avr32linux.org/ http://www.at91.com/ ; http://www.linux4sam.org/
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participants (6)
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Andrejs Cainikovs
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Jerry Van Baren
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Ken.Fuchs@bench.com
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Ulf Samuelsson
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Vyas Ashish
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Wolfgang Denk