[U-Boot-Users] RFC: mailing list transfer

Hello,
I would like to get your general opinion about moving the "u-boot-users" mailing list away from SourceForge and host it on lists.denx.de instead.
There is a couple of reasons for this: SourceForge has freuently been slow; there have been reports from many users who got unsubscribed repeatedly for no clear reason; the mailing list archive at SF is painful to use; and, most of all, we have only limited ways to change the configuration, and with any other request we depend on the mercy of SF support, which is, ummm, sloooow.
Another reason is that this would make it easier for us to cross-link between messages on the mailing list and entries in the upcoming bug and patch tracking system.
If we have a majority agreeing with this change, I suggest to proceed as follows:
* The new mailing list will be created as u-boot-users@lists.denx.de * The mailing list archive will be transferred from SF to DENX * The archive services (gmane etc.) will be notified about the change * All currently subscribed users and their settings will be transferred from SF to DENX * After a cut-off date, all users are requested to use the new ML only [that will be the complicated part]. * The ML at SF will be set to read-only to make clear it is no longer * in use.
Do you think this is a reasonable plan? Any hints, ideas, tips?
Best regards,
Wolfgang Denk

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 8:17 AM, Wolfgang Denk wd@denx.de wrote:
Hello,
I would like to get your general opinion about moving the "u-boot-users" mailing list away from SourceForge and host it on lists.denx.de instead.
There is a couple of reasons for this: SourceForge has freuently been slow; there have been reports from many users who got unsubscribed repeatedly for no clear reason; the mailing list archive at SF is painful to use; and, most of all, we have only limited ways to change the configuration, and with any other request we depend on the mercy of SF support, which is, ummm, sloooow.
Another reason is that this would make it easier for us to cross-link between messages on the mailing list and entries in the upcoming bug and patch tracking system.
If we have a majority agreeing with this change, I suggest to proceed as follows:
- The new mailing list will be created as u-boot-users@lists.denx.de
- The mailing list archive will be transferred from SF to DENX
- The archive services (gmane etc.) will be notified about the change
- All currently subscribed users and their settings will be
transferred from SF to DENX
- After a cut-off date, all users are requested to use the new ML only
[that will be the complicated part].
- The ML at SF will be set to read-only to make clear it is no longer
- in use.
Do you think this is a reasonable plan? Any hints, ideas, tips?
Great idea

On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 05:17:49PM +0200, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
Do you think this is a reasonable plan? Any hints, ideas, tips?
Yes, good idea! Local infrastructure has turned out to be much more reliable than services like SF these days.
rsc

On Fri, 1 Aug 2008, Robert Schwebel wrote:
On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 05:17:49PM +0200, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
Do you think this is a reasonable plan? Any hints, ideas, tips?
I vote for this. It is always better to use local infrastructure.
Yes, good idea! Local infrastructure has turned out to be much more reliable than services like SF these days.
rsc
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On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 05:17:49PM +0200, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
I would like to get your general opinion about moving the "u-boot-users" mailing list away from SourceForge and host it on lists.denx.de instead.
There is a couple of reasons for this: SourceForge has freuently been slow; there have been reports from many users who got unsubscribed repeatedly for no clear reason; the mailing list archive at SF is painful to use; and, most of all, we have only limited ways to change the configuration, and with any other request we depend on the mercy of SF support, which is, ummm, sloooow.
Full ACK!
Tom

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Wolfgang Denk wd@denx.de wrote:
Hello,
I would like to get your general opinion about moving the "u-boot-users" mailing list away from SourceForge and host it on lists.denx.de instead.
There is a couple of reasons for this: SourceForge has freuently been slow; there have been reports from many users who got unsubscribed repeatedly for no clear reason; the mailing list archive at SF is painful to use; and, most of all, we have only limited ways to change the configuration, and with any other request we depend on the mercy of SF support, which is, ummm, sloooow.
Another reason is that this would make it easier for us to cross-link between messages on the mailing list and entries in the upcoming bug and patch tracking system.
If we have a majority agreeing with this change, I suggest to proceed as follows:
- The new mailing list will be created as u-boot-users@lists.denx.de
- The mailing list archive will be transferred from SF to DENX
- The archive services (gmane etc.) will be notified about the change
- All currently subscribed users and their settings will be
transferred from SF to DENX
- After a cut-off date, all users are requested to use the new ML only
[that will be the complicated part].
- The ML at SF will be set to read-only to make clear it is no longer
- in use.
Do you think this is a reasonable plan? Any hints, ideas, tips?
Yes...
but I'll take this opportunity to suggest that kernel.org hosting might provide better support with far less effort... then again, I don't need to maintain it, so I really shouldn't care. :-)
g.

Hi Wolfgang,
yes, please do so.
I just returned from vacation and got unsubscribed again :-(
Matthias
On Friday 01 August 2008 17:17, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
Hello,
I would like to get your general opinion about moving the "u-boot-users" mailing list away from SourceForge and host it on lists.denx.de instead.
There is a couple of reasons for this: SourceForge has freuently been slow; there have been reports from many users who got unsubscribed repeatedly for no clear reason; the mailing list archive at SF is painful to use; and, most of all, we have only limited ways to change the configuration, and with any other request we depend on the mercy of SF support, which is, ummm, sloooow.
Another reason is that this would make it easier for us to cross-link between messages on the mailing list and entries in the upcoming bug and patch tracking system.
If we have a majority agreeing with this change, I suggest to proceed as follows:
- The new mailing list will be created as u-boot-users@lists.denx.de
- The mailing list archive will be transferred from SF to DENX
- The archive services (gmane etc.) will be notified about the change
- All currently subscribed users and their settings will be transferred from SF to DENX
- After a cut-off date, all users are requested to use the new ML only [that will be the complicated part].
- The ML at SF will be set to read-only to make clear it is no longer
- in use.
Do you think this is a reasonable plan? Any hints, ideas, tips?
Best regards,
Wolfgang Denk
participants (11)
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Ben Warren
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Grant Likely
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Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
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Jon Loeliger
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ksi@koi8.net
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Kumar Gala
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Magnus Lilja
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Matthias Fuchs
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Robert Schwebel
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T Ziomek
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Wolfgang Denk