Re: [U-Boot] [PATCH 3/3] mx28evk: extend default environment

Dear Otavio Salvador,
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Marek Vasut marex@denx.de wrote:
But I like this patch. On the other hand, can't this be made even more generic so everyone can use such a nice unified env?
I tried something in this direction but Wolfgang NACKed the patch. It wasn't clear to me what he wants so I preferred to go again with mx28evk patch only.
Well ... it might have been a good idea to discuss it with WD. I think we discussed some time ago that universal default env would be very cool.
Best regards, Marek Vasut

On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Marek Vasut marex@denx.de wrote:
Dear Otavio Salvador,
I tried something in this direction but Wolfgang NACKed the patch. It wasn't clear to me what he wants so I preferred to go again with mx28evk patch only.
Well ... it might have been a good idea to discuss it with WD. I think we discussed some time ago that universal default env would be very cool.
I can work on that as far as I know what people expect to have. In meanwhile I'd prefer to have this in since it allow the default environment to just work in our BSP layer for OpenEmbedded.

Dear Otavio Salvador,
In message CAP9ODKqPY51QzdLPejC4GyO3H-S0jYwFxEipEhSebX74Jkg0aQ@mail.gmail.com you wrote:
I can work on that as far as I know what people expect to have. In meanwhile I'd prefer to have this in since it allow the default environment to just work in our BSP layer for OpenEmbedded.
There is no such thing as "the default environment".
The default environment is vendor specific at bets, and usualy board specific. As explained before, I will not accept the Freescale style on boards maintained by DENX.
Not because I consider it inherently bad, but for example because it is different from what we, our customers, our documentation and our test scripts are used to.
Best regards,
Wolfgang Denk

Dear Wolfgang Denk,
Dear Otavio Salvador,
In message <CAP9ODKqPY51QzdLPejC4GyO3H-
S0jYwFxEipEhSebX74Jkg0aQ@mail.gmail.com> you wrote:
I can work on that as far as I know what people expect to have. In meanwhile I'd prefer to have this in since it allow the default environment to just work in our BSP layer for OpenEmbedded.
There is no such thing as "the default environment".
The default environment is vendor specific at bets, and usualy board specific. As explained before, I will not accept the Freescale style on boards maintained by DENX.
Not because I consider it inherently bad, but for example because it is different from what we, our customers, our documentation and our test scripts are used to.
Then I guess some kind of "common env" for all boards won't happen ?
Best regards,
Wolfgang Denk
Best regards, Marek Vasut

Dear Marek,
In message 201205292314.04143.marex@denx.de you wrote:
Not because I consider it inherently bad, but for example because it is different from what we, our customers, our documentation and our test scripts are used to.
Then I guess some kind of "common env" for all boards won't happen ?
I don't see a real chance. Pick any of the bigger vendors - say Freescale: do you consider it a realistic chance that all their boards (PPC, ARM, ColdFire, what else) get converted to a common environment? Do you expect that TI and Samsung and Marvell and ... agree with this approach and apply it on thier boards as ell? Or vice versa?
I think the best we can do is factor out some parts we consider well designed, and use these in the boards in our own responsibility. Then we can start pointing people at that and try to convince them to accept this for new stuff added.
But reorganizing existing environents is basicly impossible - all the bigger vendors will tell you how much effort it would take to update just all the documentation, not to mention to update all the boards and scrpts and handle the resulting board breakages / brickages.
Best regards,
Wolfgang Denk
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Marek Vasut
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Otavio Salvador
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Wolfgang Denk