Re: [U-Boot] [linux-sunxi] [UBOOT] Both Linux-Sunxi and Mainline Uboot have issues
Hi,
On 19-02-15 13:38, Siarhei Siamashka wrote:
On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 22:29:07 -0800 (PST) TsvetanUsunov tsvetanusunov@gmail.com wrote:
Hi
For A13-OLinuxino till now we conservatively used the Linux-Sunxi uboot, but we recently got new lot of Samsung memories and we decided to tweak some parameters for this DDR in Linux-Sunxi uboot and found problems. As this uboot is with status not maintained anymore I will not discuss the problems, as probably no one will spend time on it,
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The PLL5 and PLL6 values are changed and this cause problems, this is what we found so far:
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- mainline u-boot
================= 1.1 pll5 address 0x01c20020, value 0xb1049091 - P=1, N=16, K=2, M=2. The PLL5 output for DDR = (24MHz*N*K)/M. DDR=24*16*2/2 = 384MHz The PLL5 output for other module = (24MHz*N*K)/P. DDR=24*16*2/1 = 768MHz - This high frequency cause LCDs connected to the board to flicker
Yes, this was already known. And had been addressed a long time ago. Hans has a more detailed reply, so I'm not going to duplicate it.
1.2 pll6 address 0x01c20028, value 0xA1009900 - N=25, K=1, M=1
This is not the value set by u-boot, u-boot sets this to 0xA1009911
The PLL6 output is (24MHz*N*K)/M/2 = 24*25*1/1/2 = 300MHz
And this formula from the A13 user manual is wrong I've run several tests and the formula from the A10/A20 user manual, as used by the allwinner kernel sources, upstream u-boot and upstream kernel:
PLL6 = (24MHz*N*K)/2
Is the correct one. This means that what u-boot is doing:
PLL6 = 0xA1009911, MBUS = 0x81000001
Results in PLL6 = 600 MHz , MBUS = 600 / 2 = 300 MHz so upstream u-boot actually gives you more MBUS bandwidth to work with, as intended.
But then the linux-sunxi-3.4 kernel comes along and sets PLL6 to: 0xA1009900 which translates to 300 MHz (in both the wrong and correct formula) and you end up with an MBUS of only 150 MHz.
1.3 MBUS clock address 0x01c2015c, value 0x81000001 - MBUS clock source is PLL6/2 = 300/2 = 150MHz - This is connected to PLL6 setup, at this 150 Mhz the board cant play video smoothly and sometimes drop video packets when the video is playing
Right. Having a reasonably fast MBUS clock speed is very important for performance.
- sunxi u-boot
================= 1.1 pll5 address 0x01c20020, value 0xb1049091 - P=2, N=17, K=2, M=2. The PLL5 output for DDR = (24MHz*N*K)/M. DDR=24*17*2/2 = 408MHz The PLL5 output for other module = (24MHz*N*K)/P. DDR=24*16*2/2 = 408MHz - this frequency was OK, There is no problem with LCD flickering, why the frequency increase was necessary? 1.2 pll6 address 0x01c20028, value 0xA1009900 - N=25, K=1, M=1 The PLL6 output is (24MHz*N*K)/M/2 = 24*25*1/1/2 = 300MHz
Thanks a lot for finding and reporting this particular problem.
Based on a quick look, the most likely culprit seems to be the 'c' function in u-boot, which is providing wrong information to the DRAM code. But Hans is already working on a fix, so I'm not going to get involved yet.
Nope, the user manual for A13 is wrong (see above).
Additionally, the sunxi-3.4 kernel is trying to re-configure PLL6 in 'arch/arm/mach-sun5i/clock/clock.c', which is a bit of a mess. As you have the problem, most likely it also ends up being 300MHz there. Probably the sunxi-3.4 kernel should not touch PLL6 at all and keep the settings from u-boot.
Oh, thanks for pointing that out, that explains why Tsvetan is seeing 0xA1009900 for the PLL6 setting, and explains his problem (see analysis above).
I've attached a patch which should fix this, Tsvetan note that you need to build with old kernel compatibility enabled for this fix to work, as explained in my previous mail. Please let me know if this fixes things then I'll push it upstream ASAP.
And someone should also write a kernel patch for the linux-sunxi kernel to not touch pll6 on sun5i.
Regards,
Hans
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 14:57:14 +0100 Hans de Goede hdegoede@redhat.com wrote:
Hi,
On 19-02-15 13:38, Siarhei Siamashka wrote:
On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 22:29:07 -0800 (PST) TsvetanUsunov tsvetanusunov@gmail.com wrote:
Hi
For A13-OLinuxino till now we conservatively used the Linux-Sunxi uboot, but we recently got new lot of Samsung memories and we decided to tweak some parameters for this DDR in Linux-Sunxi uboot and found problems. As this uboot is with status not maintained anymore I will not discuss the problems, as probably no one will spend time on it,
<snip>
The PLL5 and PLL6 values are changed and this cause problems, this is what we found so far:
<snip>
- mainline u-boot
================= 1.1 pll5 address 0x01c20020, value 0xb1049091 - P=1, N=16, K=2, M=2. The PLL5 output for DDR = (24MHz*N*K)/M. DDR=24*16*2/2 = 384MHz The PLL5 output for other module = (24MHz*N*K)/P. DDR=24*16*2/1 = 768MHz - This high frequency cause LCDs connected to the board to flicker
Yes, this was already known. And had been addressed a long time ago. Hans has a more detailed reply, so I'm not going to duplicate it.
1.2 pll6 address 0x01c20028, value 0xA1009900 - N=25, K=1, M=1
This is not the value set by u-boot, u-boot sets this to 0xA1009911
The PLL6 output is (24MHz*N*K)/M/2 = 24*25*1/1/2 = 300MHz
And this formula from the A13 user manual is wrong I've run several tests and the formula from the A10/A20 user manual, as used by the allwinner kernel sources, upstream u-boot and upstream kernel:
PLL6 = (24MHz*N*K)/2
Is the correct one. This means that what u-boot is doing:
PLL6 = 0xA1009911, MBUS = 0x81000001
Results in PLL6 = 600 MHz , MBUS = 600 / 2 = 300 MHz so upstream u-boot actually gives you more MBUS bandwidth to work with, as intended.
But then the linux-sunxi-3.4 kernel comes along and sets PLL6 to: 0xA1009900 which translates to 300 MHz (in both the wrong and correct formula) and you end up with an MBUS of only 150 MHz.
1.3 MBUS clock address 0x01c2015c, value 0x81000001 - MBUS clock source is PLL6/2 = 300/2 = 150MHz - This is connected to PLL6 setup, at this 150 Mhz the board cant play video smoothly and sometimes drop video packets when the video is playing
Right. Having a reasonably fast MBUS clock speed is very important for performance.
- sunxi u-boot
================= 1.1 pll5 address 0x01c20020, value 0xb1049091 - P=2, N=17, K=2, M=2. The PLL5 output for DDR = (24MHz*N*K)/M. DDR=24*17*2/2 = 408MHz The PLL5 output for other module = (24MHz*N*K)/P. DDR=24*16*2/2 = 408MHz - this frequency was OK, There is no problem with LCD flickering, why the frequency increase was necessary? 1.2 pll6 address 0x01c20028, value 0xA1009900 - N=25, K=1, M=1 The PLL6 output is (24MHz*N*K)/M/2 = 24*25*1/1/2 = 300MHz
Thanks a lot for finding and reporting this particular problem.
Based on a quick look, the most likely culprit seems to be the 'c' function in u-boot, which is providing wrong information to the DRAM code. But Hans is already working on a fix, so I'm not going to get involved yet.
Nope, the user manual for A13 is wrong (see above).
You are right, thanks.
I felt that something was odd, because I did run some memory benchmarks on an A13-OLinuXino-Micro board earlier (with the mainline kernel) an did not notice any PLL6 related anomalies at that time:
http://linux-sunxi.org/A10_DRAM_Controller_Performance
The "300 MHz MBUS" results (MBUS is clocked from PLL6) are more or less consistent with the others (when MBUS is clocked from PLL5P).
Additionally, the sunxi-3.4 kernel is trying to re-configure PLL6 in 'arch/arm/mach-sun5i/clock/clock.c', which is a bit of a mess. As you have the problem, most likely it also ends up being 300MHz there. Probably the sunxi-3.4 kernel should not touch PLL6 at all and keep the settings from u-boot.
Oh, thanks for pointing that out, that explains why Tsvetan is seeing 0xA1009900 for the PLL6 setting, and explains his problem (see analysis above).
I've attached a patch which should fix this, Tsvetan note that you need to build with old kernel compatibility enabled for this fix to work, as explained in my previous mail. Please let me know if this fixes things then I'll push it upstream ASAP.
And someone should also write a kernel patch for the linux-sunxi kernel to not touch pll6 on sun5i.
I have looked at it a bit. And now I don't feel like touching anything PLL6 related in the sunxi-3.4 kernel. The A20 and A13 manuals contain some rather confusing information about PLL6 (all these PLL6, PLL6*2, PLL6/2, the M divisor, etc.). The sunxi-3.4 kernel sources are rather convoluted too.
So I'm not quite sure whether changing PLL6 from 300MHz to 600MHz (by keeping the default PLL6 settings from u-boot) in the sun5i build of the sunxi-3.4 kernel is really free from any regressions. We might upset Tsvetan again :)
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