
Dear Simon,
In message CAPnjgZ1BuAJC6Vhp06HrifU9jZqbOEuC+zRauV1DH3rY1qZp3Q@mail.gmail.com you wrote:
i.e. var+=value appends value to var, while var+=value sets variable with name "var+"
My first preference is to disallow + at the end of an end var. Perhaps we can start printing a warning if people do it, for a few releases.
This might seem to be a harmless change, but it is actually a fundamental one. And it breaks backward compatiility. And all this without need, as a list of alternatives have been suggested.
My distance second preference is what Marek has here, using a backslash to escape the + character.
Actually this has the same problem, as the backslash is also a legal character in a variable name:
=> setenv foo\+ bar => printenv foo\+ foo+=bar
Yes, it was probably not a good idea not to restrict the allowed character set when I implemented this stuff 21 years ago, but then code size was critical - we had U-Boot running from 128 kB EPROM (you remember these huge chips which were erased under UV light?).
The fact is, '=' and NUL are the only characters that cannot be used in a variable name.
As for =+ ...while I can see how people might parse it (we are setting the var equal to what it has with an appending string) I think it is a terrible idea as it is just not what people expect.
What do people expect? This is a totally new feature, so people will use what they find in the documentation and in example code.
Also, putting the
- after the = places (similarly unlikely) restrictions on the
expression.
There is a fundamental difference here.
For the '+=' case, there is no way to escape the '+', as all commonly used escapes are valid characters in the variable name, too.
With '=+', the '=' defines where the variable name ends, and from here you can define your own rules as where the value part begins - this is just a matter how you implement your parser.
The current format is basically the same as 'print'. So if I can't have the first preference, we could ensure that it prints a \ in the case that the var ends with +
But '' is a legal character in the variable name, too. Anything but '=' and NUL is a legal char. And this makes escaping impossible:
=> setenv 'foo\-' foobar => printenv 'foo\-' 'foo-'=foobar
Also, I think that it would be better if spaces and tabs were allowed to indent the .env file, i.e.
var_a = 3 var_bcd = 7
should set "var_a" to "3", "var_bcd" to "7".
If special character are needed in either name or value, they could be escaped and/or quoted.
They are allowed in the value but are reduced to a single space in the front. We need this for multi-line strings (but I'm a bit worried about it).
You mean this automatically insert a newline between parts? ugh... I didn't realize this. Did I miss it in the documentation?
We could update it to skip any leading space after the = I think.
So what if you need a leading space?
I don't like spaces before the = though. It doesn't match the 'print' output (which has no space) and it is confusing:
env print also does not add any spaces after the '='.
I think we need strict rules so it is easy for people to get exactly the env they want.
Strict rules, proper documentation, and a set of examples.
Best regards,
Wolfgang Denk