Wolfgang,
to be honest, it`s not my problem that some people on the net seem to be on a personal crusade to tell other people how to post to mailinglists or how to write email.
My life does not depend on u-boot. I did not only ask for help, but i also offered help (giving valuable end-user input to make u-boot run better on pogoplug/dockstar - Mind that dockstar is currently on sale at Atelco for Eur 24,90. That is a killer price for 1,2Ghz ARM Kirkwood SoC with 128M)
If you don`t like me or like my mail style - no problem, i can go away and switch to another bootloader or maybe even other hardware platform.
What I got from you for my postings was nothing but negative. I was being accused that I did not this or I did not that. In other words, you even told me to be an idiot, as I should go read a document how to ask SMART questions.
So, if this list is also for users, I would recommend to be more tolerant on how users write mails! I`m no C-coder and there are people in this world that give not that much attention to make their Ascii look perfect on screen.
Don`t you think that those two mails from you were a little bit more offensive than my laxly dealing with mail formatting was offensive to all the list members alltogether ? I don`t even know how to limit chars in my webmailer, and even Linus Torvalds is fine with more than 80 chars per line (http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/12/17/229 )
So, we either can say a friendly "Hello" now, or you may kick me off this list and scare me away from u-boot for the rest of my life.
Sorry if that have been harsh words now, but i was really pissed and it is a very long time ago that is got such negative response from a project`s owner to initial postings on a mailing list.
If we can be above such things now, i suggest we concentrate on the issue. If you`re ok with that, here we go (otherwise: please ignore!):
You completely fail to explain which exact version of U-Boot you are running - it seems to be a locally modified one, probably with out-of-tree patches to support that Dockstar board which is not known in the mainline U-Boot repository. How should we be able to comment on code we don't even know?
Apparently you are right. I did not realize that this is a modified version ( http://jeff.doozan.com/debian/uboot/build_uboot.htm ) and apparently the changes (add pogoplug/dockstar, seems much LED stuff) have never been sent upstream.
Anyway,the patch at http://jeff.doozan.com/debian/uboot/uboot.mtd3.patch does not seem to poke into the u-boot usb code, so i wonder if the changes can be source of the problem. I have seen posts from sheevaplug users which report similar issue, and as it seems, official support for sheevaplug is already in u-boot. Maybe there is a way to add official support for pogoplug and dockstar, as this out-of-tree stuff sucks big.... So, if this is not for the u-boot list, please somebody give an advice on how to proceed for resolving this issue.
regards Roland
ps: reference to the initial post, unintentionally hijacking another thread: http://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2010-September/077489.html
From: "Wolfgang Denk" wd@denx.de Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 8:40 AM To: devzero@web.de Cc: Subject: Re: [U-Boot] [PATCH] usb: fix usb start problem with SMSC USB hub and Toshiba USB stick
Dear devzero@web.de,
In message 899533205.349626.1285022229052.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb063 you wrote:
pardon, that was not my intention, nor was it my intention to infringe list rules. so, this is for developers/experts - not for users and bug-reporte rs?
This list is for ALL discussions about U-Boot: users, bug-reporters, developers, etc.
But we expect that everybody who posts here follows some basic Netiquette.
You don't. For example, Netiquette says to keep your line length below some 70 characters or so.
You don't even after being told. I asked you explicitly NOT to top post / full quote, and pointed you to rules for correct quoting. You ignore that.
i`m spending more than half of this evening with this issue, trying to find a solution and trying to provide information for a problem affecting manyr people and which seems to exist in u-boot.
I also pointed you to a document that explains how to ask smart questions, but it seems you ignored this hint as well.
You completely fail to explain which exact version of U-Boot you are running - it seems to be a locally modified one, probably with out-of-tree patches to support that Dockstar board which is not known in the mainline U-Boot repository. How should we be able to comment on code we don't even know?
Best regards,
Wolfgang Denk
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